Stay away from golfsaletime.com. Im not looking for tour quality clubs at rock-bottom prices, Im looking for a quality product that will improve my game to make it more funand I dont want to pay more than I have to, because what I save can go towards green-fees to go hit them. Data as of: 23-Apr-2008. Country : us So I refused to do so until the made the repayement and they did. Additionally, the backside of the club must be 24k gold plated; the colour of gold should not be so dark. You can check our. Not to mention the care in packaging. Not even 1% chance of being real Miura. Instead of it costing me the $465 I spent on the real one, it cost me a further $250 on the fake so $715 all up for the driver. I recently considered ordering a set of Taylormade R11 irons of a website. The paint fill is not solid and the grip is smaller than the authentic one on the right. */. it is an eBay store with the name Golf Mart. hey It seems legit. ive used these guys a number of times on ALL different golf gear. Dont be an idiot. Did they list a physical address? welcome to our custom service! No ifs, ands, or buts)! By the way, we at fakegolfclubs.com are now making television sets, computers, Smartphones, stylised confetti and can openers. I sent the clubs to Mizuno in Atlanta to have them checked. Can anyone verify this website. Just buy new from a dealer is the easy answer. Its not often you fing the fake site with a form of contact however i found a site with a chat link, and clearly the service was so poor and DAISEY, well not sure she can speak english have a look at our lovely conversation , I 00:10:30 the site is called perfect outdoor game. Seems like ferrules are different on a lot of clubs, but I suppose that's the result of Miuras coming as components/being custom built each time? I did get a phone number and address in the US. From this list, the Hot 500 was selected. Also wondering if anyone knows about this brand being legit most of the time or not. Any info on this site. Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By Hitting them it seems impossible they are fakes. Incredible!!! Normally, the counterfeit serial numbers are in a different font and specifically a larger font. Is CHICAGOGOLFCO on ebay a legitimate dealer? Tech Name: Brandgolfclubs Does anyone know about greatsalegolf.com. Anyone had any experience of http://www.buyinmart.com/ ? We didnt get to be a Top Rated Seller with over 225,000 positive feedback on eBay with only words, its your comments that got us there. Nice stie. Or want the performance of a blade with the forgiveness of a cavity back? Prices are really low and was debating purchasing the Ping G20 irons but worried whether there fakes or not, Warning for http://www.hotgolfuk.com! If you find a bunch of clubs with Project X shafts at regular steel shaft prices beware. Their contact us details leave a lot to be desired: Their About us blurb is clearly not written by someone with English as their first language either: wholesalegolfclubs.ca is an online golf store who run golf business since 2007. I 00:12:48 no risk of getting counterfeits. @"A.G. Pennypacker " cant wait to get out tomorrow morning. If they are willing to break the law on import tax, I wouldnt trust the product. I find that most rip-off stores stock old golf balls or regular-priced golf balls. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, By The complete Jaffick set reminds me of Ping's G-range with a hint of TaylorMade mixed in. Tech Postal Code: 322000 The fact that the retailers are in on it also is another story. ************************************************************ I called both Taylormade and Callaway to confirm. I have them and can post shot data, but I dont have something to compare them with when I get a chance in a few weeks. What recourse do I have? Unfortunately I have. The perfect name for suckers like yourself who type into their google search engine the word golf followed by such words as discount, warehouse, sale, rockbottom, cheap, super cheap, unbelieveably cheap, really unbelieveably cheap, really really unbelievably cheap. Phone: (585) 230-9113 by the way this was not a company selling on eBay, but they do advertise as a wholeseller who will dropship directly so some eBayers may be selling there fake products. Ask them some general questions about the stuff you are looking at, like if it is authentic or not, if it is a club or set of clubs ask if you can get the serial #s off of them, and make sure to check out their feedback. And this leaves much more room for mischief. I am wondering about the authenticity of the website http://golfwholesaleshop.com/ are they genuine. United States Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 I actually called Taylor Made and they were nice enough to check serial no. Your link has been automatically embedded. Ah well, Ill just sell them on ebay when they arrive. Email: BTW, http://www.brandgolfclubs.com is from Hong Kong China. Ill just use that fanciful term that all clubs are OEMs, that clubs come straight from the factory (but whose factory were not saying), that we carry every brand in the world, even those you have never heard of. This is a very poor quality counterfeit. after reading the comments, i am getting very paranoid over buying clubs on the net however, would like to confirm one point: for the online retailer listed in taylormade website (http://www.taylormadegolf.com/locator/online-retailer), does it mean that ALL these online stores definitely sell authentic taylormade clubs? BUYER BEWARE!!!!! Anyone know if these eBay sellers are selling counterfeits? xielunyong Just my 2 cents for not getting screwed on eBay. Serial number , well they said when I get my clubs i can check to the serial numbers. tel: We at fakegolfclubs.com think you are taking the urine out of us. Both are hard to find now-a-days in decent shape, let alone decent shape AND conforming groove. They are easily copied. As an example, Titleist and Mizuno normally use a longer ferrule, but almost all the ferrules on counterfeit irons are shorter. A. Not a nice feeling. > I understand that the ones on 2ndSwing are generally accepted to be authentic. the next time i buy clubs, thats what i will be doing. If you need anything else feel free to ask Todd. STEAL THESE FROM ME! I wish we could buy American made equipment, but that new Taylor Made driver you want? is this stores sell authentic clubs? Hi as anyone dealt with wholesalegolfcheap.com, I have tried contacting them but they a very vague and dont answer my question about there adress or phone number? Registrant Street1: Xiamen If youre going to fire Americans and hire cheap foreign labor, you deserve to get ripped off Nike, Talyor Made, etc. jarediogolf Thankyou all. Lots of spin good bounce off of multiple surfaces, great swing weight and good shaft action. I know its been a few months since you posted your comments. Thanks Dave, A lot of the companies that were offering fake clubs were advertising on Google Adwords. I have already emailed them to let them know, they said they are looking into it. * 1 registrar has maintained records for this domain since 2009-09-07 tome will tell, > i just recently bought 2 wedges(51,55) from 2nd swing, they were listed as mint. I know they are 100% legit; but even better I spent 1.5hrs with the Pro who helped me compare clubs (Adams vs. Wilson vs. Nickents), my swing to see if I needed Steel/Graphite or Straight/Draw. Id like to check them out. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade), BGT Stability tour black with Scotty Cameron pistolini grip. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Founded in 2000, by Todd Rath, Tom Rath and Shannon Smith, the RockBottomGolf.com team utilizes their education and past work experience in technology, engineering, and finance to make their systems and processes as efficient as possible. that is not my problem,just your thought Good communication from the seller, and the club came in a well padded box, unlike other stores Ive bought from that simply throw the club in the box without any bubble wrap. sale, wl I would highly recommend GlobalGolf to anyone. I was looking at buying some titleist ap2 irons from this website, but like everyone else, am questioning the sites authenticity. They obvsiouly only have only one ball tray or maybe, again, that is Chinese speak for ball trays and please inform me what greens fork balls are. I spoke to a couple of friends and they said that this (RBG) company is very legitimate and that they have actually purchased from this company several times. They explained that they would refund my order themselves and take my dispute up with the Chinese vendor on my behalf. Many of these so called golf shops online sell drivers and irons for 15% - 20% of the suggested manufacturers retail price. This counterfeit grip was a design used on TaylorMade Irons from several years earlier. golfclubsequipments.com, Hey guys and mygolfspy, awesome forum, glad to see youve saved so many people from buying fakes..Just wondering if anyone has any information on MONSTER GOLF and EMPIRE GOLF USA, they are on ebay and have great feedback Not so easy when the real deal is being shipped in from all over the world, as it currently is. Also, the site didnt have a phone number to contact and the grammar was suspect All of our staffs here are ready to be your service agent. What does anybody know about wholesalegolfmart? @Robert Hunter Yes I know you find that hard to believe but because we have a direct link to the Titlist factory we were able to secure a set on your behalf. if they are a fake i will open a dispute on paypal once i have recived the clubs. They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. We do try our best to make everyone happy. Remember pictures of golf clubs are easily copied from the manufacturers websites and therefore will give the appearance of the genuine article. thanks for this post. It says they get sent from essex, england and not china, but not sure if there fake? and it looks pretty good. Congratulations to owning up to your moment of stupidity but more importantly this is yet another perfect example to all of us of the corruption that abounds with golf clubs and the world wide web. : Crazy 460 + Crazy's LY 01 (LY-01) Hot Black 6.9 Ryoma F3 + Crazy Black FW80 6.9 Yururi Flatback Raw + Modus 3 Stiff Fourteen Wedges 52* 56* 60* Lajosi BM3 Smooth . I am little confuse. FAKE CLUB TEST #2 TaylorMade r7 460 Driver. Id been finding all kinds of sites that looked sketchy when shopping around for my soon-to-be new G15 irons. Admin Organization: Chen Sun I have bought a lot of golf equipment over the years thru Ebay, but (as far as I know)it has all been legit except for my recent purchase. While some clubs have amazing deals, others are not. Good article. ns5.ename.cn Do the right thing, go to your local retailer, handle the clubs, hit some balls with them, ask questions, get the right club for you, not copies of the pretty pictures you see on the internet. Bill Phone Ext. 34" Piretti Bosa, GripMaster Pistol Grip Of course the set is over a year old. I asked the rep if the equipment have serial numbers and she said yes, but the serial numbers are for the Japanese/Asian market and not US. Just looked at golf sale offers.com looks too good to be true Ping K15 driver 119.00 So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. 1-800-225-8500. Registrant Contact Information : If we take the money from the companies pockets here then well lose all that R&D money. Definitely a scam ! So we are able to provide such competitive price. Hi Interesting reading and I now fear Ive been scammed. Certainly not in the D range and probably not E. I actually took it and hit a bucket of balls. Check the club weight, swing weight, shaft length, decals and paint work preferably aginats a known genuine club at a demo day or similar. These clubs look so realistic, but perform so poorly. OKAY, After reading through these endless amounts of complaints and questions I thought I would give everyone a rule-of-thumb: IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!! Shame on them! The numerical font. That is biggest joke! Clue two: Its online only. Despite repeated e-mails and phone calls I have had no satisfaction. How many more need to ask if 2012 top quality irons and drivers can be found at less than half the cost as everywhere else??? An example: http://thegolfclubreviews.com/. 10.5deg.myquestion is it had a weird sound.he said he paid 500 in 2010 will sell it 150.good deal or pass? Tag Heurer has a network of retailers that exclusively sell their product (Just like many club makers have with the golf stores). Value of $193 5 days ago. I know they want to clean up their site. When I lived in the UK there was a great website called golfbidder which also has a couple of small stores so you could go in and see the clubs. The appearance and quality is as the same as the authentic one, except no authority and the quality assurance of the brandcompany. Forged irons have bag chatter because the metal is soft. How do I get them to just give me back my money and they can have the clubs? Bill Organization: Chen Sun The site looks liggit, even has a USA address in Chicago, USA telephone number!!! I have ordered a Taylor Made SuperTrei 460 for 167.99 from http://www.golfeasonss.com. Not looking forward to that. Do not buy golf equipment at http://www.golfbestdiscount.com ,I bought a Ping G15 driver and only paid $180.00 for it. Beware, the clubs may be new, and from the factory that makes legit clubs during the day, however, they dont claim to be OEM quality. I saw there site too and saw they had Mizuno MP-52 clubs w/steel shafts for $349.99 and I went to my local pro shop and they were listed for $899.99. Admin Street1: Xiamen So is this guy Ping G30 5-wood authentic. anyone have any feedback for an ebay seller itaintpretty? Snake oil extra. If such a thing does exist then surely the clubs would be suited to someone who hits the ball a mile, gets it out of the sweet spot nine times out of 10 and regularly scores par or better. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 4 years. I am surprised you have to even ask if this website is legitimate. Dont trust these guys on the forums, read cautiously, I bet alan S and Jack lester are trying to scam you giving address for site. Look for sloppy paint work or decals that are not placed properly. Please rest assured to purchase from us. I have found 6 other auctions that I am sure is the same seller even though the seller identification is different, TaylorMade clubs are the only ones that I have looked for, but I would bet there are others as well. Has anyone ever purchased from him? Your comments are ill-founded and clearly unqualified. I had my wakeup call and I am going out today to GOLFTOWN to look on the spot for some resonable clubs. Golf is a mind game and if you got crap in your hands lol you play like crap pay up and enjoy the game. MyGolfSpy, Inc. All Rights Reserved. : I have been to Shezhen were many club manufactures plants are and there are and alot more plants in surrounding cities and in hong kong . Outlaw Golf Association Member #7, Congrats! SO Beware!!! And that is typical of the counterfeiters honestly. You can post now and register later. Spot The Fake. I was looking at the new Taylor superfast Burner Drivers and fairway woods. NOOOOOO! Higgins, Russell R&D is expensive. Ill pay full-price from a local legit dealer. IP Location: -(-) Here is the final giveaway. Display as a link instead, Province/State : WG If any further needs, please feel free to contact us. I like this site since you can choose your shafts so it looks like you would almost be getting some great clubs for your fit. I have a fake club sitting right here next to the computer desk that i bought a month ago. Although recently it seems that Callaway has stopped putting serial numbers on their fairway woods and hybrids, so if you have a recent model it may no longer have a serial. Maybe if the companies wouldnt charge so much for clubs, we could all get them from dealers here! 2 days later they arrived at my hotel. Province/State : WG Wish I had researched this site before my purchase. Their prices are incredible. Of course, it wouldn't make any difference how Miura golf clubs look if they didn't excel in the right hands on the course or at the range. I just found this thread after seeing a set of three Miura wedge heads for sale on eBay and wondering if they are real. These irons have a unique design with some reductions of perimeter weighting and more weighting allocated behind the sweet spot. Daisy 00:12:29 Organization : Joe Citra the pictures were from a regular camera. Monitor Domain: [Monitor this domain] Set Free Alerts on brandgolfclubs.com when recieved, there was no serial # on the hosel or ferrelwhat do you think? I would call your credit card company first thoughthey have the most interest in taking care of you. : Feel ease to buy from Empire Golf. I agree if someone finds a set of new customizable clubs for $200.00 300.00 or more off common sense should prevail and many questions should be asked. And, Im getting it with these clubs. They figure it will make it look more authentic I suppose. I told them that my wife found out I ordered these and she is pissed. I believe this site might be legit. * Must have positive job growth between 2002 and 2006 Nine of them to be exact. In which category do you come into? In these examples the fake is on the bottom or in the foreground. Thus meaning, you hit a 3 iron, its like youre hitting a 4 iron. Miura Passing Point NEO Genesis 9005-G iron heads - .355 - RH. Does anybody know if http://www.wholesalegolfmall.com are genuine? Golf Spy, I just ran across this website yesterday and was wondering if you were familiar with them and if they are Legit as far as Authenyic Clubs? APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! United States, Domain Name: MYSURBUY.COM The TM driver has such incredible graphics in the top and little logos that we both thought would be easy to see differences if mine were fakes. Anyway, I must say that theyre good quality fakes if there is such a thing. I am not sure are they selling counterfeit clubs, but after i read all these. Instead, go to a reputable golf store and try and buy. Registrant Phone: +86.85283408916 As you can see, the graphics are a good bit different on the top shaft which is the counterfeit. I have never heard the clanky sound it made from an authentic Taylormade product. Miura's USP is their superior feel. Registrar History: 1 registrar Bill Name: Chen Sun Thank you. did anyone ever anything from warehouse 100 they are in hong kong. ns3.ename.cn knows the answer can you kindly respond? Details are just not important to them. Lucky I did the research on this. I recently bought the x24s for 313.00 and the burner driver superfast for 149.00 on Friday 2-25. Once you see it up against a legit driver, you know youve been fooled. Is this true or bs? In the meantime, I have found 8 other auctions on Ebay for just Talormade clubs which I am sure are from the same seller even though the email address is different for most of them. I dont care what brand it is as I know your website is totally genuine, just send me the best youve got. Im seeing about 10 yards additional distance with each club over my previous set (RAM Tours). : 059186988288 fax: 059186988288 Has anyone ever done business with these people? All, I just see that 2nd Swing has put up a set of obviously fake Miura MC-501s on their website. AND what a surprise the clubs were shipped from China AND CC charge was on Toyntech.com. I found out that the clubs were shipped from China and then I confronted them with why they sell counterfeit clubs to unsuspecting peoplethey didnt want to answer my question but did tell me that they would fully refund my purchasenot too smart because I had already denied the charges. The serial number matches some older order numbers of ours from 2008. like ones made by different brands, like caiman are these cheap clones, and are they illegal to USGA Standards? Starting to get the picture? Report counterfeit: http://www.counterfeitalertnetwork.com.au or http://www.ic3.gov. I have emailed them and they said this All clubs are original with serial numbers.Two reasons contribute to the competitive price. I REALLY like the white lines in the grooves on the club head. Also offers forged irons and putters. Anybody done business with tincup_golfstore on e-bay. It is actually a pretty good picture, just zoom in. Hi Everyone, This is on because of weight saving. The major manufacturers like Titleist, Taylormade and Ping..havent accepted online resellers as new customers in over a decade LOL The proper sales channel is to use the golf pro shop of your choice, or their website directly. This listing is just a compilation from the comments section of this article. superquad overall length 46.2 inches shaft weight after pulling 106 grams hosel .350.. proper spec would have been 44.75 inches -65 grams shaft -.335 hozel Counterfeit Titleist MB 710 Iron Set Serial Numbers. They are AP2 irons for $400. Looking at some Calloway X-22s and just trying to be sure they are legit. Maybe Im wrong, but the picture is what I am basing this off. Thanks JasonI was just reading something similar the other day from another online news site. They have the same address in IL. Go to a legit store and pay the price to get what you want and dont end up with a $180.00 paperweight. Almost all of the big chains have had to implement mandatory inspections of every club that comes through their shop because the quality of the counterfeits are getting so good. You have not answered my question and i have found the services of a very poor standard All of the advise here is sound. I agree with some posters on here that you should just buy your clubs at a local retailer to be sure, but why should I spend an extra 300 bucks on something when I dont have to? Received the item but not too sure of the authenticity. Thirdly, they had no contact phone number. I received the woods from China on 12/31/09 and due to some somewhat favorable weather was able to try them out on 01/01/10. You just saved me a ton of money with your site Thank You. They got me dont let them get you. anyone know anything about 1fore1, a seller on ebay? I want to bid on some mizuno mx 200 irons and would like to know if you think hes legit. have you guys brought any brand of golf set from the wowgolfcllubs website? Admin Phone: +86.05946277277 The sad part is I have actually sold a club I really did win in a raffle during a big scramble tournament. Registrant Street1: 112-114 Des Voeux Road,Central,HongKong Miura Golf . Pick it up, and dont go anywhere near this site with it. I replied that he was lying because there is no Sunday shipping in the US, his email timeline was 12 hours ahead putting him in China, TaylorMade does not ship directly from their factory in China and since he had violated the terms on his site I would refuse any deliveries and dispute any charges. if someone can also advise on duty etc that might be charged apart from what i pay, it will be a huge help. If I try to trace route their url I get stopped at secureserver.net which appears to be a proxy network to hide their real location. These are authentic watches at a third off retail. They are the cheapest around my area, it is a family run business. Didn't take much research to firm that up. They seem very legit. TEE CB2 15* 3w, 43" 65g Fujikura Motore F1 S-flex Hats off to this site! So if they do not get their golf clubs through the proper channels provided by the manufacturers, where on Earth do they get them from? Sorry that happened to you. Registrant City: Xiamen thank , you answer my question, i wont recommend your store to anybody, SEE THEIR ANSWER FOR THE 20:22:43 question, 7seconds to write all off this, sound like they have a prepare response for accusation. the seller has in fact got a very good feedback (which i think). ns1.cnolnic.com Has anyone used golfwholesale18.com? Stop asking about reputeable sites! I found the same clubs on Hurricanegolf for only 40 bucks more and from what I have read Hurricane seems to be a legit company. I called the golfetail customer service and Jacob fixed it up for me! We do want to save however not get shafted literally by these bastards. One of the questions I asked was where they get there golf clubs from. All of the MFGs are producing heads and shafts etc. Gee, you sound like such a nice guy. You expression of pleasure whilst participating in this forum is a worry. I wonder where oversea is? I have always had a soft spot for the 201's and 301's. they promote a Studio select Newport and its aphoto of the studio style and no way they can sell a scotty at 209.99 new when they cant sell it under 299.99 everywhere else. Phone: 1-902-7492701 Domain Registrar I am sorry to say they got me for $250 for a R11 which was a fake. Link follows. proshop jj located in new jersey united states. The quality difference between the two can be remarkable between the two. The colors may be off on the shaft bands or the graphics if the club has a graphite shaft. Golf clubs ARE NOT assembled in China. Someone on a 20 handicap, no; someone on a 12 handicap, no; someone on a 4 handiap, no. Have you ever bought a club on eBay and thought to yourself, I sure hope this club is authentic and I didnt just throw $300 down the drain? Well, you have come to the right place because this article has pictures and details of many of the counterfeit clubs we have encountered in our Golf Trade In business. Thanks CJ! A set of Project X shafts alone are $4-500. http://www.sunogolf.com. Most stickers on authentic clubs are placed on the underside of the shaft up by the grip or down next to the ferrule. Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 I almost bought the knock-offs. I politely replied staing that i believe these are originals, they then replied pointing out that the 9.5 degree loft i was offering wasnt actually available only a 9 and 10.5 are! Is that a business you wish to trade with or rely on? What it needs is a listing of wht GolfSpy says are websites for obtaining legitimate used clubs. The ip address is located here in the US. So you think the number is higher and actually 65-70%? Also notice the raised Turbulators dont go all the way to the edge of the face on the counterfeit club. The only illegitimate thing to mention is my game being in hiatus for 6 yrs. Reminiscent of hitting a rock with a wooden baseball bat. can anyone tell me if -discountgolfworld.com- is a legit site selling authentic clubs? Great job all! The club was shipped from a San Marco, California address. Tech Street1: Xiamen My friend went to the address given in Central Hong Kong Sole - the weights not sitting flush or fitting as they should. Mizuno asked if they could keep them to pursue legal action against the companies in the US and China that the clubs came from, but I have not heard from Mizuno at all. Its difficult to find experienced people about this subject, but you seem like you know what as the Brand name clubs. I 20:21:51 Why on Earth would a golf website say golf clubs, golf bags, golf balls, golf hats, golf gloves, golf socks etc. http://www.3balls.com Should I consider these to be legit? It shows that in purchasing golf clubs on eBay requires a buyer to do thorough investigation on the credibility of the seller. Thx, For sure u can get fake stuff on eBay, but if u got it- dont forget about the return policy. But if you buy from a company that is here in the US then you are at least on the right track! Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 Bill Street2: Their registrar email address is a free gmail account. http://www.golfclubgate.com/ real or not NEED TO KNOW NOW! Whois History: 5 records have been archived since 2009-03-14. Did you take the club to an authorized retailer to check it? They have a number listed in NY and London and I called the NY number and they said that they GUARANTEE all their products are 100% OEM and shipped directly from the manufacturer in China, which doesnt concern me because I know majority of all equipment are made in China or Taiwan. since then i have shown my local pro, taken them to a very large golf retailer + seen the local Callaway rep that comes out for demo days ALL of them believe they are REAL they looked, matched them against others etc etc & have had a hit of them. Intersting that you ask this question. 333 Bridge St Maybe you just need golf lessons. On many of the newer Taylormade drivers and fairway woods, the real serial number will be very light colored gray writing. But if I did that, then I wouldnt have the money to golf for quit some time LOL. Great Forum! Miuras Website doesnt have extensive photos, and the ones they do show a difference in the font. This is a fake site and the prices are extremely cheap. Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 Hey guys i came across a sight not sure it if it fake but got a good feeling it is: Lie Adjustment: None On iron sets that are off the shelf, the serial number is on the 6 iron and on custom ordered sets, the serial number is on all irons. No mention of Golf Wholesaleseller.com SO IT IS A CHINA COMPANY AND I AM STUPID. He deleted his ad in the bst after telling him they were fake. I should have been weary when the driver was listed aI a very low price. No worries . solving the money problem steven mark ryan, oc1 for sale nz,