Bob wrote: Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark?. Ive heard bits and pieces of it, but never read it all. Wait, what? CCFL is currently led by Pastor Doug Sauder. Therefore the discussion is pointless. LOL. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. He was forced to resign. Clearly some felt the news should come out right away rather than one last sunday morning coverup cum offering and they made sure that is exactly what happened. Comment. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. The SuperMom who Snapped. What happened to Diane Schuler? - Medium And bravo to a strong board if they are able to prevent these common pitfalls of a fall. As she saw how the machinery kept him alive after his spirit had died, she knew that was not the fate she wanted for herself. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. I pray that Bob would be broken over his failure as a husband, father, and pastor. Just a simple yes or no will suffice. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him who was grabbed? We have gone through this struggle around here. There is little doubt that the makers intended for us to be concerned. If you love Me, keep My commandments. The words of our witness take to the air on the wings of our works. If they were told that , it is no secret where they are. Hes aiming for restoration. He resigned. "I was brought up in a very religious, traditional Midwestern home," he told Ed Stetzer, a Wheaton College professor, in a 2013 interview for a video series. What does numbers have to do with anything? Michael, I see you shook the tree and some nuts fell out. "He was just transparent, and he could be very funny as well. I speak with the people right out of the Bible , MLD wrote: Yet Andy made about 30 comments after saying it wasnt worth talking to me. If not then the whole board and staff needs to repent ( in ways appropriate to their position and level of participation and approval) . On the issue of DC his wife- if you read her page on the church website she explains that she left ministry to raise her kids and be home for Bob. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. how are you furthering ring the kingdom with this blog? Conflicting . Maybe I dont have the steps in order but you get my drift. and help keep the future of New Times, Use of this website constitutes acceptance of our. We teach the young men of God to watch for these three attacks. I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said: 15 So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Many evangelicals get saved and still do the same sins as before or trade them in for worse sins. HMMMMM Heretic, this sound more like what I have heard. Let this be a sign to you, that if by this time next year calamity has not befallen you, to teach you to not malign Gods work and kingdom! Ok. we still want to see evidence. Agreed Michael. This post is the work of SATAN. Its interesting that it was Jesus who made it personal when in essence he said; you can condemn this woman if youve never sinned, I think specially the men need to search their hearts and ask, have I ever committed adultery, whether the actual act or lusting in my heart, have I ever viewed pornography, the scriptures say to the young man, flee youthful lusts The sexual desire is stronger in our youth, so if youre a man whos 65-70 years old, you probably wont have a problem or temptation in this area, your problem might be with pride, or something else, If youre a woman you probably cant relate to someone who has a problem with pornography, since men are visual creatures and women are feeling oriented, thus a womans problem might be more with gossip or romantic fantasies like they portray in these Harlequin novels, and no wonder these pastors are so idealized especially by women. Two years later, her family sued Calvary, alleging leaders should have done more to stop Thomas. As opposed to Scotts comment I appreciate your candidness:). I listened to it again and its as powerful as the first time we posted it. You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. It reminds me of an overnight star. I understand the severity of this. But I got it from someone on the inside. I dont always agree with his point of view and we have had a few discussions to that end. Thats how these things tend to go, much harder to hide the stuff in this day and age. I am glad to see the Board either making a deal to buy Coy out or maybe the Board had the power in the by-laws to deal with a moral failure like thisdunno, but do know that you cant really have a CC-style church that puts some much emphasis on their brand of transformation Gospel while pointing fingers at those outside the church for stuff like gay marriage etcand then have a guy in that CC pulpit that is addicted to p0rn and having relations with multiple women who are not his wife. What are you talking about? I pray that Bob Coy hasnt left decades of bodies in his wake, and I will be praying for them (nameless as they may be to me) and for his church and family to recover. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. People were asked to make pledges. Sorry that I crashed your little party! I have visited Potential Church and Church by the Glades and they fall under the seeker resurrgence apostasy movement, watered down gospel, entertainment, FALSE church. Let him be restored to the churchs love. I think he (Stanley) was the first to do this. What if Sharon doesnt come in the postoperative period? all speculation your honor. Ya because he has 20k followers that he lies to daily. Ive listened to Tullian on Moody and he tries to imitate Paul Washer too much for my taste. We will all disappoint others, we all sin, but Christ will always be there for us and will never let us down. Diane Schuler, her daughter Erin, and her three nieces also died in the crash. Ixtlan, Yes I completely understand this. Whether you are a participant in CCFL or not, the bigger picture here is that Pastor Bob is not Jesus! He got caught for intent and not the deed. And even if complaints arose, Smith's answer was often to give wayward preachers second and third chances. I should not even have put that but I couldnt resist it, him and his 10 million dollar estate. Were still worshiping the same old gods. Coy is lordship salvation enough that he has undoubtedly taught it in such a way as, now, the finger is pointed at him. Lets you and I join in prayer along with all the others that are doing the same thing for Pastor Bob and pray that The Lord will deliver him from this horrible thing. And please stop posting scripture with the Hebrew or Greek; its obvious youve studied neither since you cant even keep the tense straight in your run-on sentences. Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible? I did. You can listen at their website. I love this while trying to mock me Flynn said I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said:. 7. Does Satan have a body? "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. Who is Kassanndra Cantrell? Im concerned with those whose lives have been shattered by Bob Coys choices. Doug Sauder, 44, was announced as the new lead pastor to a standing-ovation crowd at a Wednesday evening service. Im just sick of it.Stop already, close this piece of garbage sight down and stop digging up peoples sin, and causing division in the body. Is it ok, in your world view, that I feel a profound sadness at the pain and destruction his betrayal has caused him and those in his universe? I found it accidentally on Google. Bob did this, not me. Bob is an example of what God can do with a man open to His correction. If youre so incredibly stupid as to think Id print something that inflammatory without proof, I really cant help you. They said to heck with it, we cannot put up with Bishop Stephan any longer, so they gathered his stuff and put him and his stuff in a canoe, and sent him across the river and told him not to come back. Matt. Not good. Something about sitting behind a computer screen can change and embolden us to post things we might not say to a persons face. (1 Cor. Even some well known senior pastors have some unopened closets from the days of their youth. donny, I asked politely. Is this how you interpret scripture, treat those who disagree with you with mocking barbs? I sincerely hope the congregation not only survives it all but even thrives. In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. Was it a dragon or a serpent? Coy had forsaken rock 'n' roll for Jesus but then became a rock star anyway. It probably didnt help that Doug Oldham had defected and gone from the Old Time Gospel Hour to Jimmys show. The statement went on to say that a team of assistant pastors already on staff will maintain their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services. I can see this except for one very big deal. Antonio, No I have not been tempted but I have always made sure that i never put myself in the position to be tempted. NOTHING can take that away ! Every man of God gets tempted by the three Gs.. Unfortunately, Bob Coy like thousands of ministers and leaders throughout the ages before him, thought that the means and process and seeming results justified the end. ok. And only because I am entering a different stage of grief which is anger Pastor Chinelly and Pastor Fidel Gomez were both unfaithful to their wives. They'd already sold their Coral Springs house about six months after he resigned; the settlement divided their substantial remaining assets including a $330,000 Hillsboro Beach condo he still owns and defined custody of their two children. Perhaps Michael or Alex could follow up with that and find out. Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. We are all vulnerable and weak!! Andy, the whole passage is figurative or symbolic. Interesting point and something Brodersen/CCCM and Smiths/TWFT are battling overthe IP of Chuck Smith and if his work was his or the property of CCCM. Coy is exposed for his moral situation. May the same be done to Bob Coy. Or your own wife and children if you have any. With that we end another day of broadcasting. I lean towards Calvinism but not even close to Dominion-ism. Yes, I was on staff a long time ago and didnt like the behind the scenes stuff. Coy and family have spent much of last few days with pastors and friends in prayer and counseling. In 1996, the church paid $21 million for a 75-acre campus just east of Florida's Turnpike off Cyprus Creek Road, where Coy often dipped into politics to guide his massive flock. She also acknowledged the forms that made clear her refusal to be kept on a ventilator in the event of a medical emergency. Use grace. Youve turned the sad reality of sin into flaming arrows of hate and spite towards eachother instead of being Christ-like and loving the sinner (everyone). The PCA is a family of churches that are doctrinally Reformed and governmentally Presbyterian. Now, explain the literal meaning of the chain. He is always hanging out ask him:). Why was he bound and have we seen the results of that binding? What I know of Jesus was a reference to this blog in a news report, so I came to read it and all I read are hypocritical wolves tearing at the wounded, self righteous people looking down their noses at others, so if this is Christianity I would rather be with those who are honest and forthright, and theyre not on this blog! If he had been going around dipping his quill in several other inkwells and coming back to sis for access you get the picture, I would personally go over to him and beat him up and help toss his butt out of the house. All I have published are the bare facts that I could verify through multiple sources. Get your own. Was he so selfish that his ego got so big he was ABOVE THE LAW??? Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? In that you are named well. The children inside the vehicle have no pulse except Diane's son Bryan. To all who insist he honorably initiated his resignation: His last fb post (Thursday at 3:37) was I cant wait for beach baptisms next month! Does that sound like a man who plans to end his pastorate that same evening? An open church service on Sunday at 4 p.m. included worship, reading of a letter from Coy and the reading of a statement from board, followed by honest sharing of a reminder that Jesus is leading and that the church will move forward together. G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. As for your other questions well the answers from my point of view are complex and mixed. You have to turn blind eyes to the very world around you, and how ugly it is. not being married doesnt answer the question, thats why i said fornication, or do you feel that if youre not married you can sleep with someone without being married, also when was the last time you viewed pornography?.remember lying is a sin! They too should hear, hey, we all sin, we all slip up. may God give wisdom, grace, and comfort to all those affected. Although Bob was a pastor of a mega church and held to a higher standard, he is still a human being, and human beings are flawed sinners. "We need to stop him. Indeed, police records show no progress on the case until eight months later, on April 4, 2016, when Coy's young accuser showed up at Coral Springs Police headquarters. You made a freshman mistake. Dusty you make an excellent point. IMO, in many ways, this is a good thing. Why hasnt it been called adultery?? And yes I have seen it all and have the scoop. He didnt go after anyone who left. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. As they relish in someone elses sin, they are blind to their own, self righteous Pharisees! Boyd Coddington - Wikipedia I think thats a YES! Hugh. The man had forced her to perform oral sex, she said. Careful with that pride sir:). God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. Repent, and live Let the matter sort itself out and let him rail away like a coyote in the night wind. It shows just how broken the Calvary System is. . Depression,anxiety and emotional paralysis can cloud your ability to make healthy decisions and achieve a happier life. They told me about some others they knew who were part of the less prestigious meals. told you. he made a huge mistake. Certainly they sinned as well, but Im only seeing defense of 1/2 (or 1/3, or 1/4, or.) even a little. Im not accountable to you for my sin. Mark, are you kidding? I hope you all dont choke on these morsels of gossip. Its the 2nd & 3rd looks that are sin. Closet. "Those men cannot call sin sin," one 20-year veteran of the church complained to the publication. I did not make Bob Coy have sex with women other than his wife. Before leaving each church, we shared our research with the pastors who made excuses, denied the facts and questioned our right to find fault with their church doctrine and leadership. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!! Jesus Christ, the living Word, became flesh through His miraculous conception by the Holy Spirit and His virgin birth. This is really funny have all of you married guys been tempted and have actually struggled to not have an affair. Christ the Rock suffered its own scandal a while back and I heard that Pastor set up camp at a near location. But the question still goes back to where in the Bible is a clear statement that Jesus will return to rule physically on earth for 1,000 yrs and where did Jesus ever speak of this? My question was can you recommend a Biblically sound LOCAL church? people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. How long did you stay out of ministry before you came back, what measures did you take to make sure you didnt sin again, does your present congregation know of your adulterous past? I have absolutely no sympathy for the adulterer. Let me stand corrected. They are being good guardians and deserve no finger pointingjust applause for being brave and having the character to do such a thing. By the end of that harrowing call on August 20, 2015, police knew the accused predator was no ordinary suspect. MLD Daniel 4: Vs 16 Seven times pass over him A time may logically be thought of as a year considering that a year is a natural time unit, the longest one. Did you just take the mark of 666? His wife is Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. Were total screw-ups, we readily admit it, but youre a damn fool to try to get a read on Jesus Christ from any of us. Wheres the grace?] Against Bobs inability to see the situation clearly and with Spirits lens [Gods gifts and callings are irrevocableI just need to exercise my gift so the peeps can get saved? I have just called the church and confirmed. So many people will be hurt by this. Thats what I love about Calvinist preterists, and that is that they are consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says, and says what it means, so when it says that there will be a 1000 year reign of Christ, it doesnt really mean a 1000 year reign, but its symbolic, in fact we are already in the millennium, in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually, (I had one preterist tell me that his cat and his parakeet were getting along and played together and that that was proof for him that we were in the millennium), and Satan is chained up right now (yeah right! This brother is as Gay as a Goose! Anonymity has been part of my schtick too for most of the time here. 32 This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. It is surreal that the reason why I visited here over 6 years ago was because of this man and his actions against my family. We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. In the huge sanctuary, a ten-piece band including four guitarists, a drummer surrounded by glass sound walls, and two keyboardists rocked out in front of a laser display that wouldn't be out of place on a Justin Bieber tour. Have you surveyed all men to know that I am the only one. Frankly, they have been the source of the majority of the venom but I think most of us realize these are people in a sort of shock at the news, who are hurting and whose trust has been violated and are lashing out. I may have forgotten the exact amount but it was somewhere between 3,500.00 and 5,000.00. Hugh said @10:31pm Thats what I love about Calvinist preterists, and that is that they are consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says, . I havent brought up Luther once I very rarely quote him. Is there a lawsuit coming? . They would rather see a family trashed than do what is right by the Lord. Was awake a lot last night both praying and reliving my own similar, tho much smaller scale experience. I was thinking bull, too, just without the china-shop analogy.. Re: moral failings They do not expound because they do not WANT to expound. I am sorry for sounding so bitter. Yes, God judged him, but was restored, and he was still king, leading the people. In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. I also know 2 large donors retracted their pledges. Does the Bible mention the term moral failing? Pastor Bob Coy and his wife Diane led a Florida ministry that grew to include satellite locations in Boynton Beach, Boca Raton, West Boca, Plantation, Hollywood, and the Keys, according to SunSentinel. I told Michael he could post a thread to what I shared at Grants Pass almost 8 years ago. All. I have no idea if they were paid for , or what the arrangement was. Daughter, We live in Coral Springs and have attended some of the more conservative churches in the area Reformed Baptist, Anabaptist and a John Macarthur affiliated church. The majority of this thread is a disgrace to anyone who calls themself a Christian. Where am I wrong on this? Read slowly. Look Jesus does speak of his return very clearly in Matt 25, the 2nd half about the sheep and the goats 1.) Michael- The attacks you are receiving remind me of the attacks I got when I was at that church attempting to do good. Ive sat under some horrible pastors that taught fairly well. Andy, I saw no verses posted by you AND you have not shown where Jesus spoke of this 1,000 yr earthy reign. Theres also much to say about when they began having auctions at the church. Just one. Who ever got that car? vimeo.com. There are lots of passages, verses, and phrases that require a spectrum of thought as opposed to a specific non-negotiable position. If the doctrine was a 9 and you are Spirit filled then find a like minded church that teaches sound doctrine and stay away from reformed theology and Calvinism which contradicts the word of God, your going there will be like putting new wine into old wine skins! Youre down to 700; its not like youre bigtime anymore dude. where is pastor bob coy now 2020. what happened to diane coy - bmc.org.za It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance. Devastated, I left my home church because of Bob Coys candid sermons that are always delivered with been there done that backround..I,m on my knees for him and his family knowing that what Michael before me said is all true..very sad. We all have Consciences and generally know right from wrong (some disagree on some issues as being moral or immoral but in general). Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. Some complained anonymously that Smith was "dangerously lax in maintaining standards for sexual morality" among his preachers. You know these guys are sinners and men and not Jesus, just like the rest of usyet you allow your Church System to put them on a pedestal and give them all the Power at a particular CC franchise by designits a CC distinctive. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance.. , ; , . Bob Coy Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale (CCFL) is an evangelical, charismatic megachurch in Florida, with over 20,000 worshipers attending on average. He has been the father and leader of a house. I have been married over 45 yrs and am almost Muslim like when I come in the presence of other women. Because this is a personal matter, any further questions would be best addressed to Bob Coy himself.". Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew.